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--- projects:drill-powerbank-pd [2025/11/18 11:22] – [Drill battery pack as power bank] admin
+++ projects:drill-powerbank-pd [2025/11/20 07:48] (current) – [Add USB-A to IP2368] admin
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+⚠️UNDER CONSTRUCTION!⚠️⚠
 ====== Drill battery pack as power bank ======
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 See what is inside various power packs here: [[https://www.werkzeug-news.de/threads/welche-akku-zellen-sind-bei-welchem-hersteller-verbaut-innenleben-akkupack.39500]] \\
 As one of mine is unused as of now, I want to use it as USB-C juice for my notebook and Pinecil soldering iron too. \\
+===== Buy solutions =====
+You can buy USB adapters e.g. for Makita/Dewalt/Milwaukee 18V Li-ion Battery packs with 18W fast charging for ~5€, but they do not support charging the drill battery pack and are not available for all brands. They do come with additional LED flash light, there even is a version with 15W wireless charging for ~13€. \\
+Somebody [[https://kaspars.net/blog/usb-c-pd65w-adapter-charger-18v-20v-batteries|disassembled a PD65W version UDCB094]]. \\
+For ~18€ you can get a 138W EPR+AVS capable version which can even charge the drill power pack via USB-C. \\
 ===== DIY Power Bank PCB options =====
-There are ready to use fast charging buck modules with USB-C PD 65W (supporting QC too) for cheap ~1.2€, whose output voltage is <=input voltage (the buck only ones) - not a power bank module so charging the battery is not possible. \\
+Why not build our own version? Let's do it! \\
+There are ready to use fast charging buck modules with USB-C PD 65W (supporting QC too) for cheap ~1.2€, whose output voltage is <=input voltage (the buck only ones) - with these modules charging the battery is not possible as it is not a power bank module. \\
-To be able to charge the battery pack too, I am going for a bidirectional IP2369 board with 45W on PD (which is cheaper than IP2368 100W version). As it is a power bank IC, it has the advantage that it can charge the 1-6 cells, configurable by resistor. It is buck+boost so no matter how many cells you use, there will be 20V for PD. \\
+To be able to charge the battery pack too, I am going for a bidirectional IP2369 board with 45W on PD. As it is a power bank IC, it has the advantage that it can charge the 1-6 cells, configurable by resistor. It is buck+boost so no matter how many cells you use, there will be 20V for PD. \\
-Why not just buy a power bank board with enclosure for the 18650 cells? Well, then I had to disassemble the battery pack and not be able to use it with a drill anymore. \\
+Why not take IP2368 100W version? Well, it is more expensive and needs connections between each cell, which would defeat the purpose of not taking the battery pack apart. Then you can just put the 18650 cells into a "DIY power bank enclosure" with board. \\
 FYI: read about [[:life_hacks:battery_tips|battery tips and LiPo charger boards]] \\
+==== Add USB-A to IP2368 ====
+The bidirectional IP2368 board I've chosen has only one USB-C port. Looking at the datasheet, you can see how USB-A is added the proper way with an N-channel MOSFET. \\
+{{:projects:diy-powerbank:ip2368_usb-a.png?direct&200|}} \\
 ====== Battery packs ======
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 So what we are going to do is 3D print an adapter for the connection to our power bank module. \\
 ===== J.C. Schwarz battery pack conversion =====
-Inside are 5x 18650 Samsung cells. I got them cheap in a sale (I do not even own a compatible drill). \\
+I have a 18V 3Ah battery pack called BL18025 "JCBP18" by J.C. Schwarz, manufactured for Hornbach Baumarkt. Inside are 5x 18650 Samsung "INR18650-30Q" cells. I got them cheap in a sale (I do not even own a compatible drill). \\
-The PCB only has passive components
+The PCB has only passive components. \\
 ^ Pin  ^ Name   ^ description  ^
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 Uses 0.75mm nickel-plated plates as contacts. \\
+Somebody has used washers as contacts with the 3D-print (neat idea!:) [[https://www.printables.com/model/427974-bosch-professional-18v-battery-adaptor-adapter-mod]] and created an [[https://www.printables.com/model/436123-diy-18v-makita-bosch-usb-c-powerdelivery-supply-po|enclosure around]] that. Thanks, we can reuse it four our desired electronics. \\
 ===== Bosch consumer 18V =====
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 Bosch "consumer" (aka Bosch Home and Garden) = green \\
+===== Makita and other =====
+There are already cheap [[projects:drill-powerbank-pd#buy_solutions|buy solutions]] for Makita/Dewalt/Milwaukee. If you need to 3D print Makita connector, I like this one too: [[https://www.printables.com/model/436132-makita-18v-battery-connector-adaptor-adapter-modul]] \\
+====== other add-ons ======
+There are other add-ons like a flash light for your battery pack. \\