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 ===== Hex V1 =====
-Hex V1 cables mostly use ATmega162 MCU, with support for cars up to 2017 - (there are other versions e.g. NEC, etc.). With the "good ATmega162 clones" you can update the firmware. Even if your Hex-cable supposedly is V2, it is __V1 if it has no STM32-MCU__, no matter what the sticker says. \\
+Hex V1 cables mostly use ATmega162 MCU, with support for cars up to 2017 (no UDS) - (there are other versions e.g. NEC, etc.). With the "good ATmega162 clones" you can update the firmware. Even if your Hex-cable supposedly is V2, it is __V1 if it has no STM32-MCU__, no matter what the sticker says. \\
+The good ATmega162 versions have the **__advantage that no loader is needed__** at all! Keep it :) \\
 Here some pictures of Hex V1 with ATmega: \\
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 If you have a clone Hex v2 with Badrax or Kolimer loader you must pay a fee to unlock your hex v2 to allow future updates by FLY ([[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=4732973&viewfull=1#post4732973|Source]]). This is no ad: Do not support clones. \\
+Loader 08.23.02 only works correctly with VCDS version 23.3.0 or lower. Loaders use VMProtect so your antivirus software will therefore trigger, you need to add an exception. \\
 __DO NOT UPDATE FIRMWARE__ on a clone cable (e.g. from aliexpress) using VIIPlusLoader 08.023.04 or newer!
 Viiplusloader [[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405?p=4561596&viewfull=1#post4561596|08.023.04 - 08.023.05 has set in place new measures to lock out the non-FLY clone cables]] and prevents to downgrade: **The cable will intentionally be bricked by loader program.**
-Blue LED will flash shortly on USB connect and then USB disconnects automatically.
+Blue LED will flash shortly on USB connect and then USB disconnects automatically. Stick with 08.23.02! \\
 [[https://stm32world.com/wiki/STM32_Readout_Protection_(RDP)|As STM32 firmware has RDP2 (readout protection) set, you cannot re-flash the firmware]] (only if firmware allows it, which it does not in this case). \\
 Note: Tripped RDP2 with no key or bl access is a bad player's move - there are other ways to prevent people from updating.. could have at least made a challenge/"game" out of it :/ expand minds & learn how to //fly// :) think about it. \\
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 [[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/1028175-Repair-locked-VCDS-STM32F405?p=4561596&viewfull=1#post4561596|There is a dump (with RDP2 set!) on digital-kaos of Fly's FW by Badrax]] \\
-There is also a collection of FWs (RDP2) for F405 found online: {{ :disassembly:vcds:405-fw-files.zip }}. Hint on how to port to F429 inside (not mine) - I believe it is Badrax' dumps from [[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/the-garage/general-automotive-help-and-discussions/48193-vag-com-vcds-everything?p=6108257#post6108257|here]], I actually forgot. If you want to know more, [[|https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/the-garage/general-automotive-help-and-discussions/636115-repair-locked-vcds-stm32f405?p=6602097#post6602097|read this]]. \\
+There is also a collection of FWs (RDP2) for F405 found online: {{ :disassembly:vcds:405-fw-files.zip }}. Hint on how to port to F429 inside (not mine) - I believe it is Badrax' dumps from [[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/the-garage/general-automotive-help-and-discussions/48193-vag-com-vcds-everything?p=6108257#post6108257|here]], I actually forgot. If you want to know more, [[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/the-garage/general-automotive-help-and-discussions/636115-repair-locked-vcds-stm32f405?p=6602097#post6602097|read this]]. \\
 User Nilas111 [[https://www.digital-eliteboard.com/threads/vcds-v2-supportthread-howto-fragen-infos.492334/page-254#post-4450127|has shared his B03-ST(429) dump here]], which was [[https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/the-garage/general-automotive-help-and-discussions/636115-repair-locked-vcds-stm32f405?p=6600843#post6600843|reposted here too]]. \\
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 German Thread on digital-eliteboard: [[https://www.digital-eliteboard.com/threads/vcds-v2-supportthread-howto-fragen-infos.492334/|vcds-v2-supportthread-howto-fragen-infos.492334/]] \\
+GOOD TO KNOW! When unpacking the archive, your antivirus software will trigger because the loaders are protected by VMProtect.
 ==== How to unbrick cable? ====